Yon is still wrong

Yon is still wrong

Well, yesterday it was Starbuck.  Today it’s Mike Yon, his third time at the plate.

I feel like La Flama Blanca on the mound.  And I’m bringing the heat!

(Editor:  You act jackassed like Kenny Powers, too.  Carl:  You should see me in my Scream mask!)


This is the weak sauce Mike has been spilling lately:  “The war in Afghanistan is turning around in our favor.  After nearly five years of yelling at the top of my lungs that we are losing, it’s a relief to write these words with confidence.”

Go ahead.  Read the whole thing.  He published it here I think just to spite me.

Damned Yon.

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OK, you’re back!  Let’s just be bold:  Mike can’t say these heady things with any certainty and you shouldn’t believe him until he starts to offer something in our trade we call “proof.”

So far, the only empirical evidence Mike has ginned up for his optimism is a New York Times story quoting mostly unnamed U.S. and Afghan  leaders  that has become something of a joke amongst experts on the subject.  I can’t figure out why it was written or if editors injected some of the silliness into the story, but Yon loves its optimism so I guess that’s all that counts.

Before he boarded a bird to go learn about the “rule of law” in a country without the ability to enforce any of them, Yon warned from Kabul that if the “Taliban come back, the music will stop, and we will have wasted hundred of billions of dollars, not to mention the lives and limbs.”

It’s time we broke it to our intrepid reporter:  The various Taliban ARE back in Kabul. He probably has been stumbling past them for weeks without knowing it.

The guerrillas have been drawn to a capital that is awash with war spending and opium dollars.  Today, 97 percent of Afghan GDP in the legitimate “overworld” depends on foreign aid.  That’s catnip to the Karzai kleptocracy  and insurgent militias, the latter because they can tax the projects or erect legitimate-looking front companies to catch the contracts from corrupt cronies.

The major Taliban militias in and around Kabul haven’t been sniffing just for the western aid dollars.  They’ve been creeping back to the the capital since 2009 because it’s an important hub in the global opium trade.  That’s created a nexus linking corrupt politicians, businessmen, criminal syndicates and the insurgent commands making deals together in the underworld.

This is what Yon doesn’t apparently see when he’s pondering the sublimity of U2 lyrics blaring over café speakers or photographing balloon merchants, donkey drivers and children, each snapshot another sign of boundless sunshine and game-changing optimism.

So I put it to you, gentle readers.  Do you want to accept Yon’s version of Kabul?  Or do you want me to tell you what those who speak the languages of Afghanistan and make their livings studying the political economies of war-torn nations, narcotics and the region have to say about the joint?

If you elect the former, stop reading now.

If you care to leaven your daily dose of Yon with contrary views from experts in the field, then keep reading!

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For the past year, I’ve been studying reports from the Afghanistan NGO Safety Organisation (ANSO), the Open Society Foundation, the Royal Institute of International Affairs, Afghanistan Analysts Network, the United Nations (UNAMA, UNODC), the wonderful Citha D. Maass, World Bank, the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction and, most especially, the omnibus reports of the International Crisis Group in Kabul and Brussels.

If you’re sucking Yon’s optimism like helium and you need to come down from your zany high, just take a toke of this.

None of these scholars or institutions shares Yon’s heady optimism.  Reading all of them, however, will help you piece together an admittedly murkier picture of the guerrilla war in Afghanistan:  While the strife continues to be animated by a reaction to foreign occupation and aspects of retributive civil war, it’s shifting to that of a parasitical contest for dope markets, drug shipping routes, foreign aid moolah and resources chipped from the earth.

The U.S. and our ISAF allies surged south, but reports now indicate that the momentum of the (often fratricidal) insurgents shifted to the east and central regions.   The three main insurgent militias of the Haqqani Network, Quetta Shura Taliban and Gulbuddin Hekmatyar’s Hizb-e-Islami have erected business fronts in the capital to work alongside their underworld dealings with corrupt officials and intensify terrorist attacks like the Haqqanis’ daring raid against the Intercontinental Hotel.

The jitney Michael takes about town, the money exchanger who converts his dollars, the vegetables on his table tithed through ushr and the Coke in his paw that arrived from Pakistan – all these goods and services likely are tied to one or more of the insurgencies, either directly or indirectly, as they move through an Afghan market regulated only by the taxes the Taliban place on the widgets to keep moving.

All this transpired inside what U.S. Army Gen. David Petraeus called the expanding “Kabul security bubble” or what others fancifully nickname the “ring of steel” around the city.   The lords of the ring are the Afghan security forces, so it’s perhaps more of a three-ring circus, as we saw during the recent Intercontinental Hotel slaughter.

In the recent International Crisis Group survey, for example, researchers concluded that the Quetta Shura “operate in 35 of the 62 districts in the seven provinces” around Kabul and that these “mini-shadow states operate as parallel governments, administering taxes, settling disputes and distributing power through the appointment of local military commanders.”

The insurgent raids in Kabul launched during the early 2010 campaign and the most recent “Badr” offensive arrived from these provinces, with some of the operations in the capital orchestrated from Taliban safe havens in Pakistan.  Using a network of local mosques, the guerrillas’ goal is to capture the city psychologically, not physically.

The ideology of militant Islam hasn’t been removed just because a narco-terrorist cartel emerged in and around the capital.  Nor have the Taliban’s political cadres stopped extending their tentacles throughout Kabul’s environs.   But the nature of the war appears to be morphing into something even more unlikely to be mitigated by military might or diplomacy.

And according to ANSO’s most recent report, violence across Afghanistan has now crested over the peaks recorded in 2010.  The rates of strife recorded in the southern, central and eastern provinces against soft targets of the various insurgent militias were most depressing.

Yon doesn’t have pictures of any of that, I guess.

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Shift happens. If public opinion about the war in Afghanistan shifts, then it does not matter who is right or who is wrong.

Carl, I’d like to discuss this quote,

“The U.S. and our ISAF allies surged south, but reports now indicate that the momentum of the (often fratricidal) insurgents shifted to the east and central regions. The three main insurgent militias of the Haqqani Network, Quetta Shura Taliban and Gulbuddin Hekmatyar’s Hizb-e-Islami have erected business fronts in the capital to work alongside their underworld dealings with corrupt officials and intensify terrorist attacks like the Haqqanis’ daring raid against the Intercontinental Hotel.”

What’s your take on the talking point that suicide bombers and spectacular attacks are actually signs of a weakening insurgency? And please don’t use a 1 word response like horseshit — i’d like to hear what you think.

This verbal sparring between Prine and Yon is fun and all to read for a bit. But I get tired of reading what is essentially Prine doing his damndest to justify and defend his point of view. I mean, theoretically, everyone should get right of reply with an opportunity to clear up either facts or just the air but the constant attention Prine gives to smiting intellectual foes has distracted the text from lots of other issues that could be discussed. But Line of Departure is becoming a journal entitled, “Why Carl Prine (ME) is right and why the rest of you are wrong and not an expert.” Actually, Prine sounds like teh first half hour of Bill O’Reilly’s show which should be renamed also to “Why O’Reilly (ME) is right and the rest of you are unamerican”.

Well, it’s a lie. At least in the central and eastern provinces.

So, let’s think like a terrorist. What does one of those chaps need to pull off these raids?

He needs a safe haven to arm, plan and rehearse the attacks. He now has those in the central and eastern provinces ringing Kabul.

He needs money. Well, now the Haqqani Network is tying more into the loose aid dollars and constant flow of opium cash, even setting up licit businesses to capitalize on our dope habit or the wartime spending. Because the insurgencies only need about $800 to $1 billion to sustain themselves at their present levels, and we’re spending about $120 billion for the mission, they only need to skim the economic activity we create to survive.

This might be the only war we ever fight in which we’re funding our enemies, too.

Which brings us to volunteers for the suicide missions. To be fair to the Haqqanis (although I wish you would shoot a few more of the bastards, IR) they’re very closely linked to al Qaeda, so they draw in foreign fighters or borrow them from the Quetta and Peshawar Shuras when they’re not squabbling with them for some reason.

There seems to be an unlimited number of potential martyrs. Beyond that, however, the raids obscure other attacks in and around Kabul that aren’t BBIEDs or VBIEBs, to including the recent IED assaults along a road inside the capital used by ANSF.

The raids are designed to win the war in Kabul psychologically, not necessarily along linear fronts. Shining Path in Peru would cut the power to the capital and burn the sickle and crescent.

Same effect.

Yes, empirical proof is soooooooo tiresome.

The irony that this blog has never been so popular, or that my ripostes to some of Yon’s nonsense are read by many, many people should be disregarded.

Yon not only has the right to respond but he also has the opportunity to pitch books, publish photos of men selling balloons and discuss the business opportunities of biogas.

Yeah, he has a pretty raw deal here.

On another note, the attempt to “justify or defend” one’s argument SHOULD BE the whole point of blogs. The vast majority of them don’t do that.

Thus far, Yon hasn’t done that. It’s all “gut” or “hunch.” Well, I’m not that kind of guy. I demand proof.

Since I’ve never watched Bill O’Reilly, I can’t judge him one way or the other. But I never heard that he mustered facts, linked to them so that his viewers could review the evidence on their own and then offered a section for comments to respond.

I would have to count, but I think there are probably 20 or more linked sources to what I’m saying, and those are experts in the field. They speak the languages of Afghanistan, have spent years there — many before the war — and present their analysis with other nods to empirical research.

Pretty harsh on a guy whose work you consistently utilize on your blog for your readers. They might as well just go read his blog. At least it wouldn’t be second hand and it would be from a guy who sticks his own neck out there to get it.

Yes, Mike, I’ve NEVER reported from wars zones or served my country in combat. I actually have done MORE of that than Yon, but that doesn’t make me right or wrong. It just serves to prove that it’s a meaningless point.

This blog brings in diverse opinions. Mike Yon publishes here. I turned over my blog one day wholly to Starbuck, the same guy I argued with earlier this week. I’ve argued here with Gian Gentile and Joseph Collins and have thus far published more than a dozen interviews with defense intellectuals, including some I’ve argued with in the past.

My ongoing point has been that no one holds a monopoly on truth. You seem to be bothered that I don’t let Yon get away with extolling the unvarnished truth or that I try to put his work into context.

Yeah, that’s terrible! Who would want that????????

Carl,

I’ve always thought of suicide bombers as the insurgent’s smart weapon. We have bombs and cruise missles that we fire at HVTs; they do the same with a person and an SVEST. That’s why it is mournful how many civilians we have killed at CPs throughout both IZ and AFG. The enemy generally isn’t going to launch a smart weapon at a snap TCP; it’s just not worth it when you can plan and rehearse against a static and often poorly defended soft target.

Suicide bombers are the ultimate terror weapon. Not only do they demonstrate the powerless-ness of the government but they also send the message that the insurgent is willing to go to any means necessary to accomplish his ends.

I’m sort of agnostic about the suicide bomber as weakness thing. Not sure if it really demonstrates weakness or strength. I think that goes back to the Maoism thing you talk about. Our enemy in AFG isn’t really all the concerned about moving from Phase I, to Phase II, to Phase III. He is essentially going to stay in Phase I the whole time and try to wait us out.

Suicide bombers serve several roles. One you’ve limned perfectly: They’re the poor man’s cruise missile.

But what else do they do? As part of a strategic narrative, they evoke powerful emotions in people who support or are possible supporters for the armed rebellion. Obviously, it takes some courage and belief to blow yourself up to make a point, right?

It also helps raise funds (suicide attacks are almost always filmed and distributed online or in videotapes to encourage financial support and woo volunteers to the cause).

Those volunteers who are foreign fighters generally make pretty bad soldiers. The ones from Saudi Arabia and the other Gulf States are soft kids who wouldn’t last long in the bush with Pathan mountain warriors. So you put them to a use they can manage — driving or walking someplace before exploding themselves.

The larger theme established in these propaganda of the deed events is the same whether it’s a dramatic suicide bomb attack or an IED that blows up on a police cruiser near a ministry: The government isn’t in control; we’re still here; no one can protect you; we will be here when the Americans leave.

Again, we’re dealing here in the psychological realm of warfare, not necessarily with linear movements or fires.

A counter-narrative might be that suicide bombers express weakness, but I have grave doubts about either the truthiness of the statement or the efficacy of it when uttered.

It seems more likely to speak to western people than those in Afghanistan.

Put down the energy drink and take a deep breath first and foremost. I never questioned any of your past services, simply don’t understand how you will go beyond disagreement and enter into downright muck racking, but I guess that’s what blogging does to people sometimes. You get to flaming and before you know it, the whole forest is on fire.

These issues you differ with him (and others) on are not the “truth,” nor are they “lies,” they are merely opinions.
I’ll leave you to your flaming!!!!???.…!!!!@@@@

That’s just the damn thing Carl. You say that “no one holds a monopoly on truth” and yet your text generally looks like you believe very strongly you are always right. The blog brings in diverse opinion after which you immediately lambast those opinions, which Mike below points out correctly are variable. That’s why I (tongue in cheek mind you) compared you to O’Reilly. He lures people onto his show with the express intention of busting their ear drums with his right… er.… rightness. I read Yon’s work and I read your work. I might add, if the issue of whether you served your country in combat or not is “a meaningless point” why did you leap at the opportunity to use CAPS to once again defend your honour? Especiialy, since Mike did not directly question your service? As an open critic of some of your previous posts please hear me out: I read Yon’s work and I read your work. Don’t assume your readers can’t hold their own, informed, researched opinions about Afghanistan and progress therein.

Let’s see if the glitch is fixed.

Exactly. You read both pieces and I give you the opportunity not only to peruse those but also to read links that expand upon the conversations.

Yon certainly has the right to respond. He has an amazing opportunity here to write whatever he wants. Ali Chisti, the Pakistani reporter, also gets a free forum for American readers. In the past, Starbuck had the page to himself as did MAJ Mike Few, the editor of Small Wars Journal.

They can say whatever they think and I don’t apply any censorship to their words. In the case of Starbuck, I even cloaked his identity!

I’m trying to think of any milblog that does this and I can’t think of any. Your real beef seems to be that I try to put Yon’s stuff into context. Yeah, that’s just terrible.

As for Mike pointing out that Yon somehow deserves kid gloves because he’s overseas and served in uniform, well I would qualify for the same waiver and I don’t want it. It’s meaningless. Obviously, I do NOT claim it for myself, so the displaced notion that I was trying to buttress my “honor” is just silly.

Someone’s argument should stand on its own. It should involve proof. The evidence should be more than a hunch. I’ve made an argument. I’ve footnoted it with links.

Thus far Yon hasn’t done that. His sole empirical proof is a discredited NYT story that quoted anonymous sources and lacked any other observations from the field.

Above, I give you the expertise of thousands of sources who have filed official reports, often with ISAF governments including our own, that contest Yon’s hunch, gut and whim. It would be a grave disservice to my readers here to include only Yon’s perspective.

That’s not bad manners. It’s a frank, adult discussion of complex subjects.

Some of us still believe in facts. Thus far, Yon has provided zero of those.

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