Fortress Mentality?

Fortress Mentality?

Steve Valley, author of Inside the Fortress, posted some good discussion-provoking comments about my review of one small part of his book.  (I may take on some other parts of the book in a future post.) But for now, I want to engage some of the points Steve has raised.  Here are his comments in full, and my response.  And of course, Steve will have carte blanche to respond again.   Also if you want to take sides I’m putting a poll at the end, so we’ll see who is more persuasive.  Or just join the debate in the comments section.

STEVE VALLEY: “The reason why military and the civilian leaders selected Mr. Burns was because he was the most prolific and simply the best journalist in Baghdad. He’d been writing about Iraq since the Gulf War and nobody knew the intricacies of Iraq better than him. Come on, he wrote for the NY Times and we all know how friendly the most left-leaning daily newspaper in America was to the whole military operation in Iraq. Check the archives of his stories and see how many of them are critical vs. positive of what was going on. It may be tough to admit, but John Burns was light years ahead of every journalist in country with regards to talent, knowledge and connections. End of story.“
JAMIE McINTYRE:  No arguments here.   While John Burns’ reporting was — in the words my original post “of the highest caliber” — my point was that in being too publically lauded by the people you are covering, you run the risk of creating the opposite perception.  Especially among people who already are predisposed to believe the worst about the military media relationship.  As I said, Burns is so solid, his reputation so stellar, it wasn’t an occupational hazard for him.  But the praise of other journalists — especially the blanket praise for Fox –  feeds into anti-military and media sentient that embedded reporters are too cozy with their sources.  My point was about the perception, not the reality.

STEVE VALLEY: “Again, you’re writing as a scorned CNN reporter that missed out on stories because I or someone else from the CPIC didn’t call you to cover a particular story. Fox reporters were always around waiting to cover any story, whether good or bad. You sound like Keith Olbermann at MSNBC lobbing hand grenades at Fox by calling the whole Fox news team partial to positive coverage. They weren’t and you know it. It was much easier to get Fox to cover a special event or a feature story because they were readily available whereas most of the other media outlets took hours to get to the CPIC when these opportunities arose. Remember, they had moved into al-Rasheed Hotel across the street from the CPIC and were working out of the International Press Center that was adjacent to the CPIC, so yeah, we went to them first with some stories because it made our lives easier over a 16–20 hour workday.“
JAMIE McINTYRE”  Ouch.  Hell, hath no fury like a reporter scorned.   Honestly, I think you misread me here.  I wasn’t accusing Fox or anyone else of “partial or positive coverage”.  I was saying you — by saying you liked ANY reporter from Fox —  were fueling that perception. As a reporter, I made a lot of effort to win the respect of the people I covered, trying to convince them I was “one of the good ones,” who would give them a fair shake, and who was trying to provide context, not provoke outrage with my coverage.  And yes, that did result in me getting more than my share of scoops and exclusives.   I understand why PAOs appreciate the really good reporters like John Burns.  It does make your life easier when the coverage is evenhanded and impartial, and incisive to boot.   I wasn’t criticizing Fox.  I was gently chiding YOU, somewhat tongue-in-cheek, suggesting that in handing out praise, you may have the unintended consequence of tarnishing their image.


STEVE VALLEY: “You can say what you want about Steve Harrigan, but I think his train of thought was that the insurgents shot and tried to kill these Marines just minutes before entering the mosque and they deserved what they got. I personally wouldn’t have thought twice about whacking these militants. The Marines did the right thing, and I’m willing to bet that a majority of the American public would agree with me. That’s why the main stream media is held in such low-regard these days because they’re always trying to create another story that’s critical of Bush’s war and his military. You and I will never see the same on this issue so there’s no point in carrying on.“
JAMIE McINTYRE:  Actually I don’t know what Steve Harrigan was thinking.  It would be great to hear from him. I only have your account to go on.  Maybe Steve felt the enemy insurgent got what he deserved, as you say.   Maybe he thought any investigation should be done outside the public eye.  Maybe he thought the average American wouldn’t understand the context of what happened, or the split-second decisions that have to be made in combat.  Maybe Steve believes in the laws of war and the principles embraced by our military that place us above the murderous terrorists we’re fighting.  I don’t know.  I do know that your account reinforces the perception that Steve Harrigan, and by association his network, would be willing to turn a blind eye to a possible war crime.    As I point out, an investigation cleared the Marine in question.  What looked on video to be a case of shooting the wounded on the battlefield, was judged to be too ambiguous to blame the Marine.  That wasn’t my point.  My point was when reporters witness potential misconduct by U.S. troops in combat, they have an obligation to cover it, not cover it up. I also knew Steve at CNN, and have nothing but praise the few times we worked together in the field.

STEVE VALLEY: You write as if I was singling out CNN reporters in my book when you know that I wasn’t. You have to tell the complete story of why I had problems with Mr. Vause and Ms. Amanpour. Mr. Vause purposely tried to goad me into a physical altercation by screaming at me, “That’s why you’re losing this thing because America is too fucking arrogant!” Mind you that he screamed this at me while we were nose-to-nose in front of at least 100 media and government officials inside the Baghdad Convention Center.  I think I won this? I walked away and called his producer and never saw him again at the CPIC. I did what any professional would do. I would have done the same to you, John Burns or Tom Brokaw. It didn’t matter that Vause was with CNN, it mattered that he was completely unprofessional.    Ms. Amanpour is a great journalist but seemed peeved that she had to play by the same rules as everyone else. Jamie, this had nothing to do with either of their reporting, just their own level of common courtesy and professionalism.
JAMIE McINTYRE:  Again my point here wasn’t that you were unjustified in your position.  My point is that anytime you get in a fight with a reporter, no matter how right you are and how wrong the reporter is, it only raises the reporter’s stature within his or her news organizations.  It an example of what I like to call “the natural perversity of life.”   I have seen many reporters who behave like arrogant, agenda-driven weasels, whose editors see that as a virtue.   My point was to point out that your criticism paradoxically probably helps their careers.   I’m not defending Christiane or John Vause.  I’m just saying you’re doing them a favor by complaining about them.   That’s the irony.

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I come from a 25-year active duty military public affairs career and I too have had a limited number of dust-ups with reporters, generally at the local level, who were so pompous in their own celebrity that they felt they deserved special consideration. What I find most fascinating in your discussion with Steve is the anger he clearly projects. You seem to be trying to remain even-keeled, but Steve is more into pissing fire targeting you and MSM for not always packaging happy stories from the war zone. Though our men and women risk their lives daily in such a severe and deadly environment, and should be infinitely applauded for their service and sacrifice, war is never a happy thing. Victory and rebuilding are, but death in any form is never pretty. Back to the above discussion, you each make valid points. I haven’t read Steve’s book (yet) so I don’t know the context of this conversation. However, from what I read above, you seem to have scored more points. I also think that you should consider a career as a book agent because you may have done him an enormous service in book sales. Thank you, Steve, for your continued service to our nation, and stay safe.

Having served in Iraq with Steve in a public affairs capacity, I am certain the barbs thrown represent the sarcastic manner most Red Sox fans communicate with potential Yankee fans. Steve is a wise-cracken, Bostonian who loves nothing more than ‘provoking’ thought. Both have excellent points in providing insight only those who lived it can. And as a fellow Masshole and Sox fan, Steve gets my vote (barely). Thank you both for sharing.

Having served in Iraq with Steve in a public affairs capacity, I am certain the barbs thrown represent the sarcastic manner most Red Sox fans communicate with potential Yankee fans. Steve is a wise-cracken, Bostonian who loves nothing more than ‘provoking’ thought. Both have excellent points in providing insight only those who lived it can. And as a fellow Masshole and Sox fan, Steve gets my vote (barely). Thank you both for sharing.

You both make good points. I recommend one of you puts your personal feelings aside. It is simply a matter of opinion…Having served two tours in Iraq, a stint in Afghanistan, and a (too) long tour at the Pentagon — I have OPINIONS of military reporters and journalists in general, as I am sure they have of us (PAOs). PAOs and their commanders share viewpoints. One of the first questions we are asked — “Who is in country?” Personally, I engage all; however, there were certain reporters/outlets I enjoyed working with and would actively engage and those I would respond too. From my tours in Iraq, I did not think highly of FOX News, but did respect the reporters from CNN, ABC and NBC. I respected AP, McClatchy, NY Times and LA Times, but did not think much of the Washington Post or “Salon”. Generally, FOX News was non-responsive and homesteaded north/west of Baghdad. Washington Post reporting was at times was disingenuous and difficult to work with. That was then, it could be different now. Ultimately, it is about professional courtesy and relationships. We need to tell our story and the news media is a venue to our publics.

I second S. Stover’s comment that it’s about professional courtesies and relationships. During a 30-year military PA career I was privileged to work with some of the most talented and professional correspondents covering the Pentagon, among them Mick Miklaszewski, Erick Schmidt, Tom Ricks, Tom Shanker, Bob Burns, Bret Baier, Tom Bowman, Martha Radditz, Dave Martin, Sally Donnelly (now at OSD), Mike Gordon, Brad Graham, and of course Jamie…the list goes on. I worked with most of these correspondents while in the Pentagon, but more importantly I worked closely with some of them during deployed military ops in Somalia, Central Africa, Bosnia and Iraq. Did we always agree…heck no. Were they often suspicious of my agenda…heck yes…and vice versa. But once we got over the obligatory tension that will always exist between the media and a military spokesperson, and we began to respect the unique, though often conflicting jobs we had…it became increasingly easier to do my job…which was to help reporters understand the context of military ops and events. As those relationships galvanized, personal friendships developed. Was objectivity and integrity sacrificed in the process…no, because I believed in their professionalism and they trusted me to maintain my professional integrity…bottom line, the correspondent has his/her job to do on behalf of the American public, and the military PA has his/her job to do on behalf of the nation…the onus is on the military PA professional to ensure the relationship begins and remains professional…and segregating out media reps as “good” or “bad” has a tendency to eventually get you in trouble with the possible consequential loss of credibility.

What tiresome vitriolic. Think you won this one Jamie.

Sorry to diverge from the main thread but c’mon Bob, if you are going to single out individual reporters for praise, at least spell their names right…

Haven’t read the book so I won’t comment on it yet.

Jamie, you’re spot on with the perception argument. However, Steve has it on Fox News’ general availability and scope of their reporting. I’m not in the media, mercifully ;-) , but when the war was hot and heavy it seemed like Fox News did a better job of presenting the story. Ms Amanpour is terrific on camera, love her voice and delivery, but her bias was blatant. I’ve been to Iraq a few times. I no longer trust any of the media’s coverage of events there (not even FNC) because it’s impossible to cover the story. It’s too vast, too complicated. Nothing on the PRTs in Afghanistan (the veritable pointy-tip of the spear for COIN) since a story by Geraldo Rivera 2 years ago. I say nothing, there probably have been stories, but their story isn’t getting out there for the people to see.

This is all “inside baseball” for most us to read about. I’d just like to see stories done in context of strategy and how operations are stacking up to achieve goals. And yes, we have them. Gen McChrystal is pretty damn specific about COIN.

Regardless, I really appreciate you for showing both sides. You are an honorable gentleman. I follow you because of Jim Long and your willingness to work with him in the past (he is a hidden gem in the media).

Caveat: I have no background in public affairs. But a 28 year career in the AF lets me understand that a US military member shooting a wounded person is a war crime. No doubt that the shootee “deserved it” but that is not the rules we are sworn to uphold.

Another point — no person can be available all the time, everywhere. Someone could be regarded as a good reporter but they gotta sleep! In a zone as large as even Baghdad — there is plenty to see and plenty to do. So if one person gets the story time after time — does someone delay calling the press until a certain person is available?

And we cannot talk to an individual (military, reporter, whatever) and get The Story. The situation is too big, too fluid, too complex.

I was an Army journalist/PAO type during Desert Storm, and a freelance embedded reporter three times from 2007–2009, so if anybody should/would be “biased toward the troops” it would be me. But I wasn’t, mainly because the soldiers didn’t care what I did 20 years ago, and I was smart enough to not try and compare the two time periods anyway…

Really interesting debate — unfortunately, Steve Valley (whose book I’ve meant to read for some time) sort of descended into stridency, which overwhelmed some of his good points.

I will say that the soldiers I met at small JSS’s would not have respected me if I’d given up anything controversial. I think they liked I was there to do my job, and they would do theirs, and we’d all get along just fine. One of my photos ended up getting a soldier in a bit of trouble — but when I re-embedded with his company again some time later (when the soldier had left the unit), not only was nobody angry at me, but they blamed him for being stupid about what the picture showed. So they had a face-to-face opportunity to complain to me, and actually took my side. If I’d said what Harrigan did, I can’t visualize any of the soldiers looking at me with much more than disdain — they just wanted the truth to be told, not for me to try and fit in as one of them.

Steve Harrigan had an opinion about an event he didn’t participate in, right? I can’t say I really respect anyone who tries to curry favor by saying what he WOULD have done. I only concern myself with what I’ve DONE. So who knows what Harrigan’s actual decision would have been, had he actually been confronted with it. Of course, the Marines did the right thing, as the insurgent seemed to be going for a weapon. I think that goes without saying. But I’m still keeping my video.

And, Jamie, I’m not sure I agree with the “picking fights wins you respect” argument. I mean, yeah, you’re showing your hard-nosed, but if you’re just a bully (which I know is not really what you’re saying), that’s not gaining any sort of long term benefit. I was just a freelancer with nobody backing me up, but a few times when a CSM or 1SG tried to bully me, I could usually get my way just by crossing my arms, sort of half-smile and say, “I was in the Army in 1991. This isn’t 1991.” They’d bluster a little bit, but it always turned out okay.

But…I was in a much different setting than Valley worked in, and those major outlet reporters were putting much different demands on him. So I guess I’m not sure how relevant my experience truly is, as far as a comparison.

And, if the Fox guys were always friendly to me, back when I was in a PAO situation, I’m sure I would have made them my go-to guys as well. So is that really anything other than an honest statement? I don’t think so…

Good debate, though. Steve should relax! He’s getting his word out, and that’s what’s important!

Since when should the thinking of MSM reporters or US military spokesman count for anything when it comes to judging the quality of reporters? Any objective person knows that there is no such thing as an objective person let alone an objective reporter. Pay damned close attention to that. Oh, excuse me! Perhaps I should have first asked if any one has seen Dr. Spock reporting from Afghanistan or Iraq or Iran or Pakistian or Venezuela or the Pentagon or Central Command where ever the hell it really is.

I think the debate should drop any reference to a particular news organization. It is not Fox or CNN or ABC or NYT or any of the other myriad news organizations that are covering the war. It is individuals that happen to work for one of those companies. It is the relationships built up between the reporters and the PAOs that make it work (or not). The PAO is usually going to work with a reporter they have established a professional relationship with. They do not have to be friends or even see the issues the same way, but it is courtesy and professionalism that matter on any given day.

It’s interesting to me that you said Steve Valley had been bugging you to read his book. So you read it and posted your opinion on it, and then he objected to your opinion. Apparently, he expected glowing praise from you that he didn’t receive. I think this falls into the category of “be careful what you ask for, you might get it.” I’ve been a working Army PAO for twenty years. I don’t treat reporters any differently based on their affiliation or their behavior (within reason). I want to get my organization’s stories out through as many channels as I can, so it serves me best to offer stories and access to as many media as possible. You have to be a professional…and that means putting the job before ego and reaching out to as many folks as possible to get your message out.

Jamie offered me the chance to reply and I took him up on it

Mr. McIntyre is a first-class guy and I have thanked him repeatedly for reading and writing on my work. By the way, I think he was being sarcastic about me bugging him to read my book. We’ve been communicating on Facebook for a while and I mentioned it to him several times.

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