Comments on: Off With Their Heads! http://www.lineofdeparture.com/2010/02/08/off-with-their-heads/ Military.com's News and National Policy Blog Fri, 10 Feb 2012 15:06:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jeffhttp://www.lineofdeparture.com/2010/02/08/off-with-their-heads/#comment-1998 Jeff Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:59:41 +0000 http://www.lineofdeparture.com/?p=1174#comment-1998 "...admirable job and his style should be taught in every military or management school..." you have to be kidding! You’ve been watching too much Don Trump TV. A leader has to have the ability to make decisions and believe their leadership will support them. This type of mis-management generates an atmosphere of avoiding decisions and always looking over your shoulder. It should be taught has how NOT to do it. “…admirable job and his style should be taught in every military or management school…” you have to be kidding! You’ve been watching too much Don Trump TV. A leader has to have the ability to make decisions and believe their leadership will support them. This type of mis-management generates an atmosphere of avoiding decisions and always looking over your shoulder. It should be taught has how NOT to do it.

]]> By: primetimehttp://www.lineofdeparture.com/2010/02/08/off-with-their-heads/#comment-1996 primetime Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:08:54 +0000 http://www.lineofdeparture.com/?p=1174#comment-1996 Gee, I must be one of the few that has a better impression of Rummy than Gates. I personally had no trouble with Rumsfeld once he saw that I knew what I was doing. Gates...I never served with but have heard from people who worked with him who have nothing good to say about him...one thing for certain...he is a survivor, a pragmatist...how else could you catagorize someone who served two such disparate Presidents...and don't insult my intelligence by saying that the SECDEF is non-political! What I see when I hear "he is a pragmatist" is people like Jim Baker, Brent Scowcroft and Bush 41...these are people who believe in only one thing...keeping themselves employed. Pragmatists do not have beliefs, which makes them all the more dangerous. They will do what is necessary to win...at least Rummy believed in something other than himself. Having said that, I do agree with Gates on one firing...he was absolutely correct to fire Wynn and T. Michael. They were incompetants and the AF was better off with them gone...of course then the new SECAF and CSAF are emasculated as well and Gates can savage the AF as he has. One man's opinion. Gee, I must be one of the few that has a better impression of Rummy than Gates. I personally had no trouble with Rumsfeld once he saw that I knew what I was doing. Gates…I never served with but have heard from people who worked with him who have nothing good to say about him…one thing for certain…he is a survivor, a pragmatist…how else could you catagorize someone who served two such disparate Presidents…and don’t insult my intelligence by saying that the SECDEF is non-political! What I see when I hear “he is a pragmatist” is people like Jim Baker, Brent Scowcroft and Bush 41…these are people who believe in only one thing…keeping themselves employed. Pragmatists do not have beliefs, which makes them all the more dangerous. They will do what is necessary to win…at least Rummy believed in something other than himself.
Having said that, I do agree with Gates on one firing…he was absolutely correct to fire Wynn and T. Michael. They were incompetants and the AF was better off with them gone…of course then the new SECAF and CSAF are emasculated as well and Gates can savage the AF as he has.
One man’s opinion.

]]> By: Guesthttp://www.lineofdeparture.com/2010/02/08/off-with-their-heads/#comment-1995 Guest Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:56:34 +0000 http://www.lineofdeparture.com/?p=1174#comment-1995 Sec Gates is doing an admirable job and his style should be taught in every military or management school in the country. Here is a man who can get stuff DONE in the most unlikely conditions. Wish I could buy him a beer! Sec Gates is doing an admirable job and his style should be taught in every military or management school in the country. Here is a man who can get stuff DONE in the most unlikely conditions. Wish I could buy him a beer!

]]> By: Charliehttp://www.lineofdeparture.com/2010/02/08/off-with-their-heads/#comment-1994 Charlie Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:31:49 +0000 http://www.lineofdeparture.com/?p=1174#comment-1994 It's great that members of our House and Senate in Congress love the removable of incompetents. I can't wait until they get to see and feel the result of their upcoming firings in November It’s great that members of our House and Senate in Congress love the removable of incompetents. I can’t wait until they get to see and feel the result of their upcoming firings in November

]]> By: MCraytonhttp://www.lineofdeparture.com/2010/02/08/off-with-their-heads/#comment-1993 MCrayton Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:40:17 +0000 http://www.lineofdeparture.com/?p=1174#comment-1993 If you don't have support from the top it sucks all the way down! I think Secretary Gates is doing a fine job. Nothing wrong with firing people, for that matter not always anything wrong with being fired. Sometimes you find yourself in the den with the lions and when the lions are winning extraction is not a bad thing. If you don’t have support from the top it sucks all the way down! I think Secretary Gates is doing a fine job. Nothing wrong with firing people, for that matter not always anything wrong with being fired. Sometimes you find yourself in the den with the lions and when the lions are winning extraction is not a bad thing.

]]> By: Guesthttp://www.lineofdeparture.com/2010/02/08/off-with-their-heads/#comment-1992 Guest Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:27:33 +0000 http://www.lineofdeparture.com/?p=1174#comment-1992 Time would have been better served by putting a photo that more resembles Sec. Gates on the cover. C'mon Man it does not even look like him. Conduct a poll and you will see the results. It is about time someone holds the Pentagon senior leaders accountable and no doubt there are a few more that should be sent packing! Sec. Gates is doing a wonderful job and that is what our fighting men and women deserve and need from a SECDEF! Time would have been better served by putting a photo that more resembles Sec. Gates on the cover. C’mon Man it does not even look like him. Conduct a poll and you will see the results.
It is about time someone holds the Pentagon senior leaders accountable and no doubt there are a few more that should be sent packing! Sec. Gates is doing a wonderful job and that is what our fighting men and women deserve and need from a SECDEF!

]]> By: Maximum Leader Adbulhttp://www.lineofdeparture.com/2010/02/08/off-with-their-heads/#comment-1989 Maximum Leader Adbul Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:26:38 +0000 http://www.lineofdeparture.com/?p=1174#comment-1989 Gates might very well be impressive with his firing abilities but look at the incompetents that almost always exacerbate the problem: Slocum was replaced with Franchione at A&M under Gates tutelage and that rube was no coach. He was fired shortly after Gate's departed for the Pentagon. Gates cut his teeth originally as a missileer in the Air Force where the Strategic Air Command motto was, "To err is human but to forgive is not SAC policy." In all likelihood, with all of the ass burning throughout SAC at the time, it is highly likely that Gates learned to enjoy the art of smoking out subordinates. Moving forward, Gates selected McChrystal, not because of his combat prowess but rather his good company manners(I was polite and did NOT say brown noser). Moreover, Obama needed a fresh new general in Afghanistan that would be submissive to the civilian leadership. The way to guarantee this was to pick a 3 star general and promote him to his 4th star which means McChrystal can retire at that grade with just two years time in grade. If he screws up, he will not have the time in grade to retire at that grade. You can rest assured that McChrystal will play nicey nice for the remainder of his time as they will most assuredly be grooming and preparing a new replacement for some time in early 2011. McChrystal was one of the many officers that found themselves entwined in the Tillman tragedy. It's nice to praise and worship Gates but the replacements for the incompetents that he fires are inept too which makes one wonder about Gates. Gates might very well be impressive with his firing abilities but look at the incompetents that almost always exacerbate the problem: Slocum was replaced with Franchione at A&M under Gates tutelage and that rube was no coach. He was fired shortly after Gate’s departed for the Pentagon.

Gates cut his teeth originally as a missileer in the Air Force where the Strategic Air Command motto was, “To err is human but to forgive is not SAC policy.” In all likelihood, with all of the ass burning throughout SAC at the time, it is highly likely that Gates learned to enjoy the art of smoking out subordinates. Moving forward, Gates selected McChrystal, not because of his combat prowess but rather his good company manners(I was polite and did NOT say brown noser). Moreover, Obama needed a fresh new general in Afghanistan that would be submissive to the civilian leadership. The way to guarantee this was to pick a 3 star general and promote him to his 4th star which means McChrystal can retire at that grade with just two years time in grade. If he screws up, he will not have the time in grade to retire at that grade. You can rest assured that McChrystal will play nicey nice for the remainder of his time as they will most assuredly be grooming and preparing a new replacement for some time in early 2011. McChrystal was one of the many officers that found themselves entwined in the Tillman tragedy.

It’s nice to praise and worship Gates but the replacements for the incompetents that he fires are inept too which makes one wonder about Gates.

]]> By: GI Joehttp://www.lineofdeparture.com/2010/02/08/off-with-their-heads/#comment-1988 GI Joe Tue, 09 Feb 2010 05:48:31 +0000 http://www.lineofdeparture.com/?p=1174#comment-1988 Rumsfeld was a disrespectful, lowlife jerk to everyone. He was arrogant, petty, arbitrary and had no coherent vision. And while I have no direct proof of this, circumstantial evidence strongly suggests he was an outright liar as well. Gates, like everyone, may have his faults, but thank god he's no Don Rumsfeld. Rumsfeld was a disrespectful, lowlife jerk to everyone. He was arrogant, petty, arbitrary and had no coherent vision. And while I have no direct proof of this, circumstantial evidence strongly suggests he was an outright liar as well. Gates, like everyone, may have his faults, but thank god he’s no Don Rumsfeld.

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