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> <channel><title>Comments on: D-Day for Mr. Obama</title> <atom:link href="http://www.lineofdeparture.com/2009/12/01/d-day-for-mr-obama/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.lineofdeparture.com/2009/12/01/d-day-for-mr-obama/</link> <description>Military.com&#039;s News and National Policy Blog</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:56:06 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Bill</title><link>http://www.lineofdeparture.com/2009/12/01/d-day-for-mr-obama/comment-page-2/#comment-1689</link> <dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:57:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.lineofdeparture.com/?p=969#comment-1689</guid> <description>Funny, you guys were singing a different tune back in Sep of &#039;01 when Pres Bush &#039;just sat there for 45 mins&#039;. How long is too long to decide to put more lives on the line? Long enough to risk more by waiting, that&#039;s how long. Obama has shown time and again that any decision important enough to make headlines means he&#039;ll wait till the polls come in so he can be assured of another term. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, you guys were singing a different tune back in Sep of ’01 when Pres Bush ‘just sat there for 45 mins’. How long is too long to decide to put more lives on the line? Long enough to risk more by waiting, that’s how long. Obama has shown time and again that any decision important enough to make headlines means he’ll wait till the polls come in so he can be assured of another term.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Curt Kastens</title><link>http://www.lineofdeparture.com/2009/12/01/d-day-for-mr-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-1663</link> <dc:creator>Curt Kastens</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 12:49:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.lineofdeparture.com/?p=969#comment-1663</guid> <description>Hahahahaha  pulled a fast one there one you, didn&#039;t I?  I have never said anything about Gertraud von Bullion (11 Sept. 1891- 11 June 1930) before had I?  Well I bet that nothing will come of it anyways. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahahahaha  pulled a fast one there one you, didn’t I?  I have never said anything about Gertraud von Bullion (11 Sept. 1891– 11 June 1930) before had I?  Well I bet that nothing will come of it anyways.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Curt Kastens</title><link>http://www.lineofdeparture.com/2009/12/01/d-day-for-mr-obama/comment-page-2/#comment-1659</link> <dc:creator>Curt Kastens</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:20:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.lineofdeparture.com/?p=969#comment-1659</guid> <description>I forgot to mention, as far as the US Congress voting on something, it carries no weight what so ever.  It is the best Congress that money can buy.  Those people are nothing more than the finance committee for the world&#039;s largest continuing criminal enterprise.  The US military no more protects me than polar bears in the Republic of Congo. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to mention, as far as the US Congress voting on something, it carries no weight what so ever.  It is the best Congress that money can buy.  Those people are nothing more than the finance committee for the world’s largest continuing criminal enterprise.  The US military no more protects me than polar bears in the Republic of Congo.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Guinevere</title><link>http://www.lineofdeparture.com/2009/12/01/d-day-for-mr-obama/comment-page-2/#comment-1645</link> <dc:creator>Guinevere</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 21:19:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.lineofdeparture.com/?p=969#comment-1645</guid> <description>Alexander Litvinenko does not exist......that&#039;s okay, coming from people that belief there are two moons, James Bond movies are fiction as well, though, in Mr. Roger&#039;s land of make believe, James Bond movies are probably real.
Bond, deserted in his own land, oops, that was someone else in REALITY. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alexander Litvinenko does not exist.…..that’s okay, coming from people that belief there are two moons, James Bond movies are fiction as well, though, in Mr. Roger’s land of make believe, James Bond movies are probably real.</p><p>Bond, deserted in his own land, oops, that was someone else in REALITY.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Curt Kastens</title><link>http://www.lineofdeparture.com/2009/12/01/d-day-for-mr-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-1662</link> <dc:creator>Curt Kastens</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 21:17:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.lineofdeparture.com/?p=969#comment-1662</guid> <description>Yes Lee, being a well cared for Poodle is a boring and unproductive job.  The only fun I ever have is when my owner lets me loose to run around on rare occasions.  The only thing that I produce are little grants which sometimes cause little stinks. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Lee, being a well cared for Poodle is a boring and unproductive job.  The only fun I ever have is when my owner lets me loose to run around on rare occasions.  The only thing that I produce are little grants which sometimes cause little stinks.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Guinevere</title><link>http://www.lineofdeparture.com/2009/12/01/d-day-for-mr-obama/comment-page-2/#comment-1631</link> <dc:creator>Guinevere</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 20:22:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.lineofdeparture.com/?p=969#comment-1631</guid> <description>Unfortunately, reality on the ground does not mesh with an Air war being waged as well.  Vietnam, umm, they&#039;re guessing their propaganda is cooler than the Vietcong shooting at MILITARY members. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, reality on the ground does not mesh with an Air war being waged as well.  Vietnam, umm, they’re guessing their propaganda is cooler than the Vietcong shooting at MILITARY members.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Curt Kastens</title><link>http://www.lineofdeparture.com/2009/12/01/d-day-for-mr-obama/comment-page-2/#comment-1627</link> <dc:creator>Curt Kastens</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 19:57:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.lineofdeparture.com/?p=969#comment-1627</guid> <description>Mike Tucci, how do you define winning?  I define winning in Afghanistan by the following criteria.
1.There are enough schools and qualified teachers to educate All of Afghanistan&#039;s children.
2.It is safe for the children, including the females to go to school.
(Separate classes for boys and girls is perfectly acceptable)
3.The children do not get taught a Wahhabi version of Islam which is a disgrace to that religion.
4. Afghanistan has no foreign military personnel stationed in its country.
Do you notice that list does not include any desire to limit the number of terrorist training camps in Afghanistan.  **** we have white power terrorists training camps right here in the US that we do not close down.  To say nothing about our prison systems which are nothing more than vast terrorist universities.
Far Far better for the US that an Islamic jihadist camp be set up in Afghanistan were its graduates will be far more likely to attack India or China or Russia than the US, than have the camps set up in the vast spaces of Canada or Mexico.
Far Far better that the US not give the terrorists an unnecessary motive to attack the US.
Now the next question is, is it the job of the US to achieve a victory, the way I define it, in Afghanistan?
MAYBE NOT, but I really do not think that it would really be all that hard if that was the goal.  It would not take tens of thousands of soldiers.  What it might take would be a few hundred, volunteer, not necessarily American,  special forces who have degrees in Islamic Studies and Philosophy and Psychology, who would be willing to make a five year commitment to work with the more reasonable native Muslims to achieve a more enlightened Islamic culture.  These forces would have to work with other regional governments such as the Iranians to ensure that the Iranians would not take these forces as a threat and try to sabotage them.  The job might not be done in 5 years.  Then new qualified volunteers would be needed.
The possibility exists that such outsiders would never be accepted by much of the population, and who ever worked with then would be seen as a stooge of foreign powers.  Then there would be absolutely nothing that we (the west) could do to achieve victory as I define it. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Tucci, how do you define winning?  I define winning in Afghanistan by the following criteria.<br
/> 1.There are enough schools and qualified teachers to educate All of Afghanistan’s children.<br
/> 2.It is safe for the children, including the females to go to school.<br
/> (Separate classes for boys and girls is perfectly acceptable)<br
/> 3.The children do not get taught a Wahhabi version of Islam which is a disgrace to that religion.<br
/> 4. Afghanistan has no foreign military personnel stationed in its country.<br
/> Do you notice that list does not include any desire to limit the number of terrorist training camps in Afghanistan.  **** we have white power terrorists training camps right here in the US that we do not close down.  To say nothing about our prison systems which are nothing more than vast terrorist universities.<br
/> Far Far better for the US that an Islamic jihadist camp be set up in Afghanistan were its graduates will be far more likely to attack India or China or Russia than the US, than have the camps set up in the vast spaces of Canada or Mexico.<br
/> Far Far better that the US not give the terrorists an unnecessary motive to attack the US.</p><p>Now the next question is, is it the job of the US to achieve a victory, the way I define it, in Afghanistan?<br
/> MAYBE NOT, but I really do not think that it would really be all that hard if that was the goal.  It would not take tens of thousands of soldiers.  What it might take would be a few hundred, volunteer, not necessarily American,  special forces who have degrees in Islamic Studies and Philosophy and Psychology, who would be willing to make a five year commitment to work with the more reasonable native Muslims to achieve a more enlightened Islamic culture.  These forces would have to work with other regional governments such as the Iranians to ensure that the Iranians would not take these forces as a threat and try to sabotage them.  The job might not be done in 5 years.  Then new qualified volunteers would be needed.<br
/> The possibility exists that such outsiders would never be accepted by much of the population, and who ever worked with then would be seen as a stooge of foreign powers.  Then there would be absolutely nothing that we (the west) could do to achieve victory as I define it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Curt Kastens</title><link>http://www.lineofdeparture.com/2009/12/01/d-day-for-mr-obama/comment-page-2/#comment-1658</link> <dc:creator>Curt Kastens</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:00:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.lineofdeparture.com/?p=969#comment-1658</guid> <description>My head gets examined daily.
No where in UN resolutions 1378 or 1383 does it explicitly allow a coalition of the willing to invade Afghanistan.   Furthermore the 911 attacks were clearly not launched from Afghanistan they were clearly launched from Boston and Washington DC.  One can not even say that they were planned in Afghanistan or that the people sent to carry them out came from Afghanistan.  One could make a reasonable guess that they were financed by Osama bin Laden.  I remember a lot being written after the attacks about financing but considering that the sources of this information are not unbiased I do not consider them reliable.  I do remember that when one of the supposed financial people involved went on trial here in Germany the prosecuters could not even get a conviction against him.
Considering the behavior of the US government over the last 50 years a person would have to be quite irresponsible not to be anti- American government and anti American people to the extent the people support the government. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My head gets examined daily.<br
/> No where in UN resolutions 1378 or 1383 does it explicitly allow a coalition of the willing to invade Afghanistan.   Furthermore the 911 attacks were clearly not launched from Afghanistan they were clearly launched from Boston and Washington DC.  One can not even say that they were planned in Afghanistan or that the people sent to carry them out came from Afghanistan.  One could make a reasonable guess that they were financed by Osama bin Laden.  I remember a lot being written after the attacks about financing but considering that the sources of this information are not unbiased I do not consider them reliable.  I do remember that when one of the supposed financial people involved went on trial here in Germany the prosecuters could not even get a conviction against him.<br
/> Considering the behavior of the US government over the last 50 years a person would have to be quite irresponsible not to be anti– American government and anti American people to the extent the people support the government.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Silent Service</title><link>http://www.lineofdeparture.com/2009/12/01/d-day-for-mr-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-1657</link> <dc:creator>Silent Service</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:52:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.lineofdeparture.com/?p=969#comment-1657</guid> <description>Curt,
When did you get back from Canada? Did you finally decide that nobody cared about you and that there would be no jail time for draft dodgers?
Oh, and yes, most all soldiers and sailors &#8220;Do IT because of duty and for love of country.&#8221; Even the enemy troops do.  But,,,,,,,,,,, the big &#8220;BUT&#8221; is; Which side&#8217;s purposes are aligned with the purposes of God? The answer to that question is the determining factor as to which side will be victorious.
A word of comfort: there is no shame in being a peacenik; it&#8217;s only a fool&#8217;s way of life! When one finally realizes that being a hater, fighting against the inevitable, was only an exercise in futility, maybe there is hope for him. But for you to hurl curses at those who are only following orders is very dangerous (whether you believe and support their cause or not is immaterial). You might as well call down curses on yourself. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curt,</p><p>When did you get back from Canada? Did you finally decide that nobody cared about you and that there would be no jail time for draft dodgers?</p><p>Oh, and yes, most all soldiers and sailors “Do IT because of duty and for love of country.” Even the enemy troops do.  But„„„„„, the big “BUT” is; Which side’s purposes are aligned with the purposes of God? The answer to that question is the determining factor as to which side will be victorious.</p><p>A word of comfort: there is no shame in being a peacenik; it’s only a fool’s way of life! When one finally realizes that being a hater, fighting against the inevitable, was only an exercise in futility, maybe there is hope for him. But for you to hurl curses at those who are only following orders is very dangerous (whether you believe and support their cause or not is immaterial). You might as well call down curses on yourself.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lee</title><link>http://www.lineofdeparture.com/2009/12/01/d-day-for-mr-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-1655</link> <dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:45:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.lineofdeparture.com/?p=969#comment-1655</guid> <description>Curt,
It&#039;s apparent that you&#039;ve never served in any branch of service and i&#039;d guess your not a very productive part of society. And yet we, as a military and society, defend and protect you. I don&#039;t believe i&#039;ve read a more under educated or ill informed comment in a long time. Congradulations for that! If you had half a clue how the system works, or had a little respect for your country, your opinion would be different. You obviously are a product of our failing education system.
Hooah!! </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curt,<br
/> It’s apparent that you’ve never served in any branch of service and i’d guess your not a very productive part of society. And yet we, as a military and society, defend and protect you. I don’t believe i’ve read a more under educated or ill informed comment in a long time. Congradulations for that! If you had half a clue how the system works, or had a little respect for your country, your opinion would be different. You obviously are a product of our failing education system.<br
/> Hooah!!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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