Hitting the Pause Button on Afghanistan

Hitting the Pause Button on Afghanistan

If you are wondering why the Obama administration is suddenly having serious second thoughts about poring more troops into Afghanistan, here’s the short version. A lot has changed in the past few months. Here are the big three:

1. The Flawed Afghan Election
Instead of the recent elections conferring legitimacy on the government of Hamid Karzai, the widespread fraud has undermined confidence in the central government, in a country by the way, that has never really had any functioning central government. So instead of supporting a popularly-elected regime, the U.S. is seen even more as the outside occupying force that has installed a puppet president. No matter the reality, the perception is very problematic.

2. The More Effective, Resurgent Taliban


The Taliban has been on the rebound for years, but in the just last few months it’s shown an amazing ability to plan and execute increasingly sophisticated attacks. It is well-funded, and has installed a shadow government in may provinces that has been able to intimidate or in some cases win over the civilian population. My Pentagon sources say the shadow government even has a system of “ombudsmen” to whom average Afghans can lodge complaints if they feel mistreated. If a Taliban leader is judged guilty of abuse, he is punished. The power and influence of the Talban has grown dramatically, just since Gen. Stanley McChrystal took over.

3. The Sobering McChrystal Assessment
President Obama and Defense Secretary Gates dispatched Gen. McChrystal to Afghanistan because, as an expert in counterinsurgency, they thought him best equipped to figure out how to turn things around. They asked McChrystal what needed to done, and what he needs to do it. And they got clear-eyed assessment of how bad things are how long it will take to turn the tide. Now Mssrs. Obama and Gates are asking the key question: what will this massive and potentially long-term investment achieve? If the goal is keeping al Qaeda on the defensive, and preventing a safe haven for terrorists, is building Afghanistan into a nation really the way to achieve that.

[CLICK on photo to hear my interview with NPR's Guy Raz, on All Things Considered, Weekend]

These are not easy questions. Gates was at the CIA, and helped funnel money to the Mujahedeen fighters to defeated the Soviet army. He’s well aware of how a well-funded insurgency can defeat a superpower, especially if it is seen as an occupying force. And despite the best efforts of the brightest military minds, increasingly, that’s how U.S. and NATO forces are seen.

No significant new troops will be coming from NATO countries who already feel hoodwinked into a bloody protracted war under the false pretense that they would be peacekeepers in war that was already won, and in the mopping-up stage. That was another eye-opening aspect of McChrystal unvarnished report. NATO, despite the valiant efforts of a few countries, such as Britain, Canada, and the Netherlands, has been an abject failure in adapting to counterinsurgency tactics.

The feeling at the Pentagon is “all in or all out.” Both courses have real, significant risks for the future security of the United States. But the president also knows other commanders-in-chief have blindly followed the advice of top military commanders with disastrous results.

I don’t envy the president on this one. I hope he makes the right call. (I wish I knew what that was.) But we may never know. Or if we do find out, it could well be too late.

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The Thunder Run has linked to this post in the blog post From the Front: 09/28/2009 News and Personal dispatches from the front and the home front.

What has changed in Afghan villages — for instance in Helmand Province? Some outsiders (wearing American uniforms) just showed up and thought they were in charge! Until recently, we had safely hunkered down in our forts. The Afghan villagers don’t understand elections — they vote for the person that the village elders say to vote for. The Afghan President is some far off guy from some other tribe — they will never support him. The election was a non-issue. These Afghan villagers are not people that drive around in their Camrys, stopping for fast food on the way to the kid’s soccer practice! Gen McCrystal is talking about how to extend the Afghan government’s influence beyond the tenements of Kabul — his plan would almost certainly work. In Belgium.

Well said Jamie…I simply wish you could ramp up the volume without becoming another media idiot. By “volume,” I mean” laser-focused decisiveness. I’ve studied the tribal mess of AfghsnPeshwarPakistan since even before “Three Cups of Tea.” I’ve studied as an academic who just missed getting the last call for Vietnam. And I’ve had the benefit of in-country assets who were great friends…and veterans of Vietnam. Tora Bora was our chance to finish the job of killing Bin Laden while we were still welcomed as guests. It has been wrong ever since, terribly murderously wrong. And it is Vietnam part DUH– We launch a Crusade (yes, that IS the word), we install Saigon-serial puppets (Chalabi/Perv/Karzai) and we’re transformed into the hated infidels.

It is GAME OVER. It is TIME to EXIT…for all the sound reasons in your NPR interview. But even you and your host avoided the cultural issues, the vast void we simply don’t “get.” Jeez, now even the STRYKERS are blowing up. And whatever teacups of welcome we had earned, now they are bomb-shattered shards. And they slice through the jugulars of our sons and daughters with every IED, with every passing day spent straddling the fence while insisting “we lose wither way.” Try to float that intellectual tap dance up here where we just buried Army Pfc. Jeremiah Monroe, our neighbor– http://​www​.poststar​.com/​a​r​t​i​c​l​e​s​/​2​0​0​9​/​0​9​/​2​6​/​n​e​ws/…

I can’t hit the pause, not in a small adirondack corner where We All Feel The Loss.

–Bless ‘em all, Bring ‘em Home,
Kyle York
Saratoga Springs

The reason the “pause” button has been hit by the socialist in command is that he is faced with a situation where the only real long term solution to the problem requires him to act in a absolutely the opposite of his closely held beliefs and those of a large majority of his political base.

Afghanistan is not a country, it is a collection of tribes, villages, grudges, stone age customs and people who don’t give a rat’s ass about the next village…let alone the U.S.. They are comfortable living in squalor, cannot fathom “a better life”. In a country where “boys are for pleasure and women are for babies” is understood, htf are we to expect they understand the difference between the taliban and a democratic form of government?

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We’re faced with basically 4 choices…
1). Abandon Afghanistan and allow it to revert to how it was pre 9/11…and blame it on the Bush Administration,
2). Get out of Afghanistan and reserve the right to bomb the sh** out of anything we want in order to prevent the country from returning fully to the state in which, during the Clinton Administration, the Al Queda camps trained upwards of 20,000 jihadist to spread around the world,
3). Reduce the size of the US/NATO involvement to mainly SOF types to prevent the full return of taliban support for Al Queda (fail)
4). Commit massive amounts of troops and $$$ (40,000 more troops is a joke) for generations (more than 20 years) with no “exit strategy” and a commitment to bring a majority of Afghanistan at least into the 20th century.

Failure to choose #4 (which cuts against everything bho believes) is the beginning of the end.

Was the first part of my post not PC enough?

I say we just get rid of No-bama and impeach him now. Obama is worthless and couldn’t lead a girl scout troop on a Sunday morning bake sale. He is so utterly worthless that he doesn’t even talk with his General in field over in Afghanistan now. What a moron. If we loose the war in Afghanistan, it will be over for Obama no matter what he says or does back home. What we need to do is pull out all the stops and carpet bomb any and all Taliban and Al-queada facilities. Roll our strategic bombers out and carpet bomb those towel heads back to the stone age.

Kayaker you’re a f&^%#$@ retard. How many times did Bush talk to his CO’s in the field? You don’t know do you?

In answer to Mike, who posted a coherent thought as opposed to other people…

I would think that your option 3 is tenable. Just keep the Special Ops people there to keep the fires from getting too big and give them a good training zone.

Afghanistan is not a country, it is the leftovers when other countries drew their lines. It is outside of Pakistan, Iran, and some other ‘stans of various flavors. It has never been a “country” as we know it. And it ain’t gonna be anytime in our lifetimes.

Why would Option 3 be unworkable?

I agree!

ITS TIME TO UPDATE. USE DROMES, ROBOTS TO FIGHT. BRING THE TROOPS HOME.

I think the real mission is securing Pakistani nukes…Afghanistan is just a launching point for terror ops..

To any who say President Bush did not speak to his Commanders in the field; when I was in Afghanistan, we spent a considerable amount of effort on the recurring “POTUS” brief. Unless it was Will Ferrell on the other end of the TCF, I have to say you are quite wrong. This was also when nobody else (the media) seemed to care much about the Afghanistan effort; all eyes and ears were on the news out of Iraq. Somehow, he was still interested..

That sounds abought right brother. Ill give ya a thumbs up.

He talked to him weekly *******.

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