Comments on: Operation Petticoat: Full Steam Ahead

By: Jack

Jack — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:14:09 +0000

The problem with creating an all female crew is that you lose all the experience that a normal crew would have. Some of these submarine officers and senior enlisted have been on submarine deployments since the Cold War. Losing all those years of experience would mean losing mission readiness and fleet capability. Do you think the higher ups would want to risk losing a $2 billion submarine and 120 crewmen due to inexperience and its resulting incompetence?

By: Thunderhorse19

Thunderhorse19 — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:18:02 +0000

The faster the Navy puts women on the subs, the faster the Navy will get rid of the ‘over 30′ crowd, the ones who’ve been in the Navy longer than 30 years. Nothing but racist, dead wood, Admirals included. Drennan and Williams, and their cabal should have been retired 10 years ago. Then the Navy will have a free hand to work on their pedophile problem with the Navy chiefs at Kitsap.

By: FTG1(SS)

FTG1(SS) — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:46:06 +0000

I have no doubt that women could do the same jobs as men could do on a boat, But as a former submariner I have to agree with a poll a saw that this is a recipe for disaster. 3 months under water in close proximity, well I don’t have tell you what happens to both men and women after 3 months of no with the outside world. Some might say this would be good for morale, but I believe it would have the opposite affect. An all women sub would probably be okay, but then you may have competition between the all male and all female subs. I say if it works don’t mess with it.

By: Denny

Denny — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:25:35 +0000

If you ever served on a Boat, Then you’ll know where this is going! The New Navy will surely be the downfall of the Silent Service. I took pride in serveing my country knowing what I was giving up on those long Cold War missions. It is surely Not My Navy anymore, So I can Safely repeat what was said by my Old Chief back in the Day, “Not In My Navy”. I do hope & pray for the Service of all of those who decide to commence on this journey in the future. Witout the Boats, We are not a Safe Powerful Country!!!

By: Robert Kintner

Robert Kintner — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 03:51:06 +0000

There was a woman captain in charge of RTC when I got out after 10 years due to Clinton totally screwing up the military. I was a sonar tech on subs and there is no way in hell that it will work. That woman in charge of RTC had NEVER BEEN TO SEA yet she gave the recruits blue’s cards, made it to where we got in trouble for making them exercise for punishment, road guards were told they didnt have to run. Kinder gentler my ass. Women have ruined the Navy. Oh yeah, recruits coming out of Great Lakes actually called a training time out during a real casualty. That happens on subs and you and others die. STS2/SS

By: MM1/SS

MM1/SS — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 01:15:50 +0000

I must agree with RM2 and sailorphil… can’t say what life on a boomer is like, but I served on a fast boat and there is only one way I believe that this would not be completely foolish.

100% female crew… but then who’d train them? Who’d qualify them?

Just some places male and female need to be segregated.

By: SEAL76

SEAL76 — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:35:02 +0000

Asking for trouble is what this is. The Navy already has problems with pregnancies on board regular ships where quarters are not as close. I am a former SEAL and would not want a female in SEAL Team because of the friction and the damage stupid male competition would cause to the operational integrity of the platoons and squadrons.

By: RM2(SS/DV/PJ)

RM2(SS/DV/PJ) — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:04:16 +0000

I agree with sailorphil 100%. Anyone who thinks females should be on the boats should have served on them first. Life onboard a boat is unlike anything else. Non submariners think they understand but truly they cannot.

I have always agreed that women should be able to serve where men do with only one condition. The training and status quo should not change just to meet the needs of the females. That only lessens what the males have had to endure and breeds animosity between the sexes.

By: RM2(SS/DV/PJ)

RM2(SS/DV/PJ) — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:03:46 +0000

Having served on two Fast Boats and one Boomer, I think this has the potential for disaster if it's not conducted correctly. While it's true that there's no job on board a boat that a female cannot do, is she able/willing to become a crewmember and not just a "female crewmember?" She will have to have as thick scin as the next male to be accepted as a shipmate; espicially as a NUB/FLOB (Non-Useful Body/Free Loading Oxygen Breather for all you non submariners). And God help her if she decides to pull the "I'm a female card so I can't lift that or do that." Is she willing to go without a shower for a week or two, no clean clothes and subsequently deal with all the body odor of 130-150 people? It's not pleasant. If not, she'll never survive and only segregate herself from her crew. And that's not a wise decision. It's not like a "normal" job where you can be a loner and go home at the end of your day.

By: JEA

JEA — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 16:47:31 +0000

Women have served along side men since the begin of time. Some women will have what it takes and some men want have what it takes