Comments on: After Further Review: The AP Photo Controversy http://www.lineofdeparture.com/2009/09/07/after-further-review-the-ap-photo-controversey/ Military.com's News and National Policy Blog Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:45:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Howard Brandweinhttp://www.lineofdeparture.com/2009/09/07/after-further-review-the-ap-photo-controversey/comment-page-1/#comment-226 Howard Brandwein Sat, 12 Sep 2009 05:37:16 +0000 http://www.thelineofdeparture.com/?p=373#comment-226 The family owned him in life. All of America owned him in his death. He died so we could see his death...... it's irony. that his family sadly his calls the ultimate memorial to him dishonoring him. I wonder what he would have thought of this sad debate. Let's let the warriors talk for themselves and all the sideliners like me keep very quiet. The family owned him in life. All of America owned him in his death. He died so we could see his death.….. it’s irony. that his family sadly his calls the ultimate memorial to him dishonoring him. I wonder what he would have thought of this sad debate. Let’s let the warriors talk for themselves and all the sideliners like me keep very quiet.

]]> By: alexandriahttp://www.lineofdeparture.com/2009/09/07/after-further-review-the-ap-photo-controversey/comment-page-1/#comment-206 alexandria Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:09:57 +0000 http://www.thelineofdeparture.com/?p=373#comment-206 You have a wonderful website and great articles. You have a wonderful website and great articles.

]]> By: J.David Knepperhttp://www.lineofdeparture.com/2009/09/07/after-further-review-the-ap-photo-controversey/comment-page-1/#comment-195 J.David Knepper Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:51:55 +0000 http://www.thelineofdeparture.com/?p=373#comment-195 AP should have had the guts to tell the father that they would do what their editorial board would eventually decide. Brace yourself. But to ask the man, get his answer, then do the opposite of what he wanted is just plain cowardly. AP should have had the guts to tell the father that they would do what their editorial board would eventually decide. Brace yourself.

But to ask the man, get his answer, then do the opposite of what he wanted is just plain cowardly.

]]> By: Commonsensehttp://www.lineofdeparture.com/2009/09/07/after-further-review-the-ap-photo-controversey/comment-page-1/#comment-172 Commonsense Tue, 08 Sep 2009 22:21:23 +0000 http://www.thelineofdeparture.com/?p=373#comment-172 So the Gritty Reality of War needs to be highlighted. Come on. You can see it all over the web, not just US sites but many Foreign ones as well. Don'try to justify the act and hide behind "That's Journalism folks!" That is irresponsible journalism. How come hate crimes and murder of peace offices or civilians are not shown in our national media? How about televising an execution? Will that not "show--the gritty reality of rampant crime and the ramification thereof" in our nation! The Photog or Embed was seeking to sensationalize the event. When will you journalist's show the "Gritty reality of being a Maimed or Dead Embedded Journalist?" AFter all 95 have given their ultimate covering the combat action in Iraq and Afghanistan. I want to see those photos released! So the Gritty Reality of War needs to be highlighted. Come on. You can see it all over the web, not just US sites but many Foreign ones as well. Don’try to justify the act and hide behind “That’s Journalism folks!” That is irresponsible journalism. How come hate crimes and murder of peace offices or civilians are not shown in our national media? How about televising an execution? Will that not “show–the gritty reality of rampant crime and the ramification thereof” in our nation!

The Photog or Embed was seeking to sensationalize the event. When will you journalist’s show the “Gritty reality of being a Maimed or Dead Embedded Journalist?” AFter all 95 have given their ultimate covering the combat action in Iraq and Afghanistan. I want to see those photos released!

]]> By: David Mhttp://www.lineofdeparture.com/2009/09/07/after-further-review-the-ap-photo-controversey/comment-page-1/#comment-169 David M Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:21:46 +0000 http://www.thelineofdeparture.com/?p=373#comment-169 The Thunder Run has linked to this post in the blog post <a href="http://www.thunderrun.us/2009/09/from-front-09052009.html" target="_blank">From the Front: 09/05/2009 </a> News and Personal dispatches from the front and the home front. The Thunder Run has linked to this post in the blog post From the Front: 09/05/2009 News and Personal dispatches from the front and the home front.

]]> By: P.G.http://www.lineofdeparture.com/2009/09/07/after-further-review-the-ap-photo-controversey/comment-page-1/#comment-167 P.G. Tue, 08 Sep 2009 06:21:24 +0000 http://www.thelineofdeparture.com/?p=373#comment-167 AP should not have used this photo. Plain and simple. As was pointed out in a previous thread, if AP wanted to zero in on the grittiness of war, why now? Why this one? There must be hundreds of AP photographers with thousands of "gritty" images from their times as embeds. Why now, after the family has asked them not to? If there is some higher purpose to releasing this photo then AP needs to spit it out. To say that seven years after the invasion of Afghanistan there is a sudden need to break with tradition and escalate the grittiness of war reporting makes no sense, without an explanation. Say you hope it will speed our withdrawal. That at least makes sense. I'm a former soldier from OIF who did not want to see this image. It popped up on my Google homepage and nearly brought tears to my eyes. I hope the same did not happen to his friends and family. AP should not have used this photo. Plain and simple. As was pointed out in a previous thread, if AP wanted to zero in on the grittiness of war, why now? Why this one? There must be hundreds of AP photographers with thousands of “gritty” images from their times as embeds. Why now, after the family has asked them not to? If there is some higher purpose to releasing this photo then AP needs to spit it out. To say that seven years after the invasion of Afghanistan there is a sudden need to break with tradition and escalate the grittiness of war reporting makes no sense, without an explanation. Say you hope it will speed our withdrawal. That at least makes sense.

I’m a former soldier from OIF who did not want to see this image. It popped up on my Google homepage and nearly brought tears to my eyes. I hope the same did not happen to his friends and family.

]]> By: Rick Newmanhttp://www.lineofdeparture.com/2009/09/07/after-further-review-the-ap-photo-controversey/comment-page-1/#comment-166 Rick Newman Tue, 08 Sep 2009 02:35:26 +0000 http://www.thelineofdeparture.com/?p=373#comment-166 Self-censorship by news organizations, which is sorta what Tom Ricks is ultimately advocating, is risky and best avoided except under the most extreme circumstances. I don't think this instance is extreme enough. Obviously there's intense sensitivity in this case, and in a way, the messy outcome that we've had might be the best outcome. The AP has made the photo available, and others have been the ones to make the censorship decision--and in Tom's case, self-censor (by choosing not to look at the photo). So AP has done its job by exposing the gritty reality, and others have done their job by protecting the Marine's family. The best outcome isn't always black-or-white--especially in war, right? Sometimes ambivalence is the answer. Rick Newman USNews & World Report Self-censorship by news organizations, which is sorta what Tom Ricks is ultimately advocating, is risky and best avoided except under the most extreme circumstances. I don’t think this instance is extreme enough. Obviously there’s intense sensitivity in this case, and in a way, the messy outcome that we’ve had might be the best outcome. The AP has made the photo available, and others have been the ones to make the censorship decision–and in Tom’s case, self-censor (by choosing not to look at the photo). So AP has done its job by exposing the gritty reality, and others have done their job by protecting the Marine’s family. The best outcome isn’t always black-or-white–especially in war, right? Sometimes ambivalence is the answer.

Rick Newman
USNews & World Report

]]> By: primetimehttp://www.lineofdeparture.com/2009/09/07/after-further-review-the-ap-photo-controversey/comment-page-1/#comment-164 primetime Mon, 07 Sep 2009 21:48:43 +0000 http://www.thelineofdeparture.com/?p=373#comment-164 Jamie, your call is the correct one. I too agree that it is common decency and I think that relating this to WWII photos of dead uses that media training standard of "if you can't justify your act, misdirect to a similar one". This is well worth a long discussion, NOT in comments. I was raised and trained to report what you see (sic) but now believe that far too many "journalists" today follow their own prejudices rather than report what occurred. One man's opinion. cheers, Jamie, your call is the correct one. I too agree that it is common decency and I think that relating this to WWII photos of dead uses that media training standard of “if you can’t justify your act, misdirect to a similar one”. This is well worth a long discussion, NOT in comments. I was raised and trained to report what you see (sic) but now believe that far too many “journalists” today follow their own prejudices rather than report what occurred. One man’s opinion. cheers,

]]> By: Man by another namehttp://www.lineofdeparture.com/2009/09/07/after-further-review-the-ap-photo-controversey/comment-page-1/#comment-163 Man by another name Mon, 07 Sep 2009 21:42:40 +0000 http://www.thelineofdeparture.com/?p=373#comment-163 I have not seen the photographs. I have read that it was easy to identify the soldier. So why not alter just enough of the picture to make recognition of individual impossible? I have not seen the photographs. I have read that it was easy to identify the soldier. So why not alter just enough of the picture to make recognition of individual impossible?

]]> By: Joe Yoswahttp://www.lineofdeparture.com/2009/09/07/after-further-review-the-ap-photo-controversey/comment-page-1/#comment-162 Joe Yoswa Mon, 07 Sep 2009 19:29:43 +0000 http://www.thelineofdeparture.com/?p=373#comment-162 Well said, Jamie. Well said, Jamie.

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